The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. Some, like Jameson, are owned by Catholic companies. From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . I come from an island which has been called the most Irish place outside of Ireland and weve had our papist-loyalist troubles in the past, where they will remain. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. It wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that Guinness is in the Republic of Ireland and Bushmills is in Northern Ireland would it? one night. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . If you read J.F. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. 17-18 years old found the love of my lifea catholic girl. The difference between the two has to do with the history of whiskey production in Ireland. Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. I am still cradling my Bushmills 12 yr Distillery Reserve Whiskey. Bottom line Bushmills 16 yr has won my top pick in Irish whiskey over the 21 yr and Middletons, Redbreast and all the others. @Darby )Gill: What a load of nonsense! Thanks for the clarification. But the Bushmills Distillery Reserve, a bottle of which my very, very good sister recently brought back as a gift from Belfast, is holy smoking delicious good. As for my preference, I tend to like the lighter Bushmills as its the first Irish whiskey I discovered years ago, and Ive certainly enjoyed my share of Jameson from time to time. Im an American Catholic raised in the bible belt, West Virginia to be exact. And as you can check from the email address I come from Finland, a protestant country. Jameson was pretty much founded in 1780 when John Jameson a Scottish guy purchased the Bow Street Distillery, which at the time was one of the biggest distilleries in Ireland. And, many thanks to (nearly) all of those who offered comments. I serve it in Texas to my St. Patricks day guests and several times a year otherwise. If you had and asked for Bushmills, you would have received a long stare and possibly been asked to leave. 2nd line was bottling Jameson. Love Black Bush but Jamesons Gold Reserve gets my vote as the very best Ive had. I tasted the Jamesons before I poured in any ginger ale & so glad I did, Irish whiskey is sooooo much better IMHO than Scotch or bourbon IMHO. The old make, which we drank with our luncheon, was delicious, and finer than anything we had hitherto tasted. The fact that this blog has been going for so very long tells me the myth is true. I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. And I obviously know alot about it being from Ireland and the horrific scenes of the troubles. Not sure if it is available outside of Ireland, but if you can, get a hold of a bottle. Powers Gold Label is the best-selling Irish whiskey in its native Ireland. Youd probably get glassed if you asked the question in certain places in Ireland or Scotland. He said, I guess they will have to be giving up the Guiness as well? Bushmills on one end, Jamesons on the other. Bushmills also provides single malt for Powers, while Midleton (where many of teh Irish whiskies are produced) provides grain whiskey for the Bushmills blends. Whisky is Scotch, followed by Canada. I live in a small town in Texas, I am Catholic and I am treated as if I am a leper. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. There was still a lot of Catholics in Scotland. Paddy is a brand of blended Irish whiskey produced by Irish Distillers, at the Midleton distillery in County Cork, on behalf of Sazerac, a privately held American company. During this period, when the Dublin whiskey distilleries were amongst the largest in the world, the family-run firms of John Power, along with John Jameson, William Jameson, and George Roe, (collectively known as the "Big Four") came to dominate the Irish distilling landscape, introducing several innovations. I can just say Cheers! As someone who drinks her whiskey with ginger ale and a slice of lime, I definitely vote Powers over any other. It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. But thats merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork Catholic country. Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. The new distillery opened in 1975, and a year later, production ceased at John's Lane Distillery and began anew in Cork,[1] with Powers Gold Label and many other Irish whiskeys reformulated from single pot stills whiskeys to blends. Palate Over and out. [8] This was a notable departure for the firm, as for many years the big Dublin distilling dynasties had shunned the use of Coffey stills, questioning if their output, grain whiskey, could even be termed whiskey. Theyve also started work on a massive bottling plant on site to bring all areas of Dew production back to the town. Does anyone know why these bottles were over there ? You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. Also, you ask what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon? Ive used Irish Whiskey in Old Fashions and Sours before with tasty results. Do you have a clue what an ol Yankee could do there for wages? Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. [1], Historically, Powers Gold Label was the best-selling whiskey in Ireland. And I was not drunk !!! Im a Redbreast man first when feeling flush, but usually turn to Powers or the old John J when cash flow is normal. Thanks again for this essay and the add-on comments. Currently rumored to be building a new distillery, Well, I already put my two cents in well up the thread, but here is some topical good news for the distillery in the North2013 Spirit of the Year: Bushmills http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Having just had this discussion with my buddy who was bribed with a bottle of Bush to express his love of it via twitter (which he refused, good man that he is) I have to say the following-. Regarding the Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Corn Beef relationship, Man is walking down the street in Belfast. It is all quite harmonious between the distilleries. Those whiskeys seem to get along just fine! All Irish whiskey is great. Ive been to the area that Bush Mills in manufactured and its total UFV territory. Catholic powers praised the killings, and the French Protestant cause saw a wave of exile and conversions. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. It wasnt an issue about who owns what. My growing up yearsnot virulently anti catholic just plain anti-catholic. Arthur Guinness was a Protestant and a Unionist. As for the Tullamore Dew, it actually is the perfect mingling of North & South, since the pot still & grain comes from Midleton in Cork and the single malt is distilled at Bushmills (then aged down at LDI). Is Jameson Protestant whiskey? Redbreast is wonderful, but spendy. I became a Whiskey drinker a few years back now, and started with Jameson. One further chapter in the history that really debunks this myth is that between 1972 and 2005, both Midleton (makers of Jameson) and Bushmills were owned by the same corporation, Irish Distillers. For this reason, Bushmills has a bigger flavor, while Jameson has a much lighter flavor. Colum Egan (Master Distiller of Bushmills) is himself a Catholic. [8] After expansion, output at the distillery rose to 700,000 gallons per annum, and by the 1880s, had reached about 900,000 gallons per annum, at which point the distillery covered over six acres of central Dublin, and had a staff of about 300 people.[3][1]. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. @Rob: my scotch comment was tongue-in-cheek. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. Thanks all for your comments. Your email address will not be published. I think the Middleton hurt my wallet the most. After all, thats what the Jacobites were all about. I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. I drink it often . I still live there. History matters which is why the Catholic/Protestant thing is relevant. The make up of the folks who work at Bushmills reflects the religous makeup of Northern Ireland roughly 40% Roman Catholic. Fast forward 60 years. A few years ago during a trip to Ireland we had dinner at the home of some relatives. You can see why I am confused. Jamesons for sure. Lived in Ireland my whole life and as an avid whiskey drinker, both scotch and Irish, Ive never encountered that conversation. Counter-Reformation, also called Catholic Reformation or Catholic Revival, in the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic efforts directed in the 16th and early 17th centuries both against the Protestant Reformation and toward internal renewal. In 1827, production was reported at 160,270 gallons,[5] and by 1833 had grown to 300,000 gallons per annum. Still enjoy the Black Bush and the Bushmills 16yr. Irish whiskeys obtain much of their flavor and color from the coating left inside the barrel from the bourbon aging process. And if you just like something different then Cooleys your distillery (though that Michael Collins stuff is shite). Yes, it is definitely misguided, even nuts, but its not a myth. These two fine whiskeys should be enjoyed in a glass and not on some pseudo-religious podium. Upon this one should decide which whiskey they prefer, and not upon any religous matter. Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). In the mean time, the closest I can get to Ireland is my Bushmills and Guinness at night, and Kerrygold butter on toast for breakfast. There was an Irish-American lobby group headed by a politician that was running for mayor that started a whole anti-Bushmills campaign in San Francisco in the early 90s claiming that the company never hired Catholics, a convenient attract Irish-American votes. When I lived in Providence, there was a lot of Powers drinking going on. I could be fairly sure the master distiller was hired because he was good at distilling whiskey and not because they needed to hire a Catholic. I will second the Powers recommendation to add some turf to the fire. It is a fact that Bushmills is distilled in Northern Ireland, and Jameson hails from County Cork in the Republic. When Tug McGraw was interviewed after winning the world series in 1980, they asked him what he was going to spend his series winnings on. This is wayyyy late, and I apologize, but the record needed to be set straight. [2] Powers gold label is absolute shit. Connemara Cask Strength is a real treat, and Greenore Single Grain is likewise enjoyable. No matter where it is produced. In true Irish US tradition, my son is a cop and we will drink any Irish whiskey all of which are superior to Scotch. hint of linseed. Jameson is always a great go-to, easy and smooth. Funny. Bushmills, which refused to hire Catholics for many years has been actively trying to recruit Catholic employees of late, because the pay a wee tax penalty for lack of diversity in their workforce. I do live in a Hicktown. Sweeter, rich with barley, and perfect with one ice cube. Ive enjoyed most Irish whiskey Ive sampled, including Powers, Tully, and Bushmills. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. They have started construction now on a grain still on site now which means that the full three components of the blend will be produced in Tullamore. Not all American or Irish whiskies spell the word with an elike Makers Mark, George Dickel, Old Forester, Early Times or Paddy spell the word w-h-i-s-k-y. William Riley, well said, man. Then I spent another 20 minutes clicking around at random on your site, and then I ended up at this article, neatly explaining the first part of the joke. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. Generally, it is a little less expensive than Jameson. This is because Guinness is now seen as a world-wide iconic Irish brand and brings in lots of money to the southern Irish economy. I was playing golf in Ireland, and I asked my caddy what was his favorite whiskey. The Ambassador had both Jameson and Bushmills on offer. Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM / CBS San Francisco. Some of the comments here are totally rediculous. Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. It was largely untouched by the Troubles and paramilitaries. Jameson Irish Whiskey is produced in Midleton, Ireland, though the original home of the brand is in Dublin. But until 2005 BOTH distilleries were owned by Pernod-Ricard. But there was a bar that had a shot of Powers and a Guinness for $7, so as you can guess I ended up drinking quite a bit of it. Required fields are marked *. Though Bushmills is the #2 Irish whiskey in the U.S., Tullamore Dew is #2 Irish whiskey (after Jameson) worldwide, so not too surprising that you would see it most places. I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Still love it. [8] In addition, three of the distillery's pot stills were saved and now located in the college's Red Square.[8]. Powers is readily available in the Balto/Wash area. This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. Yup, only the americans give a shit about this stuff anymore. Yep, he was referring to a certain product from Bushmills.. He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. 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